Mackie: burden of proof - theists must
prove their belief makes sense
Two types of evil: moral and natural (and
moral evil which leads to natural evil)
Surely only God can cause natural evil - humans can't?
Dawkins: there is suffering in the animal kingdom - not
a beautiful, perfect world!
Nature is 'indifferent'
Is free will worth the
trouble it causes?
Couldn't God have made all
humans moral so we'd always
choose the moral action?
Why are bad people allowed to
profit from the suffering of
innocents?
Do we all share in
original sin? This
seems unfair?
Theodicies
Explanations for evil in the
world using reason
Augustine's theodicy
Evil is a privation of good
Absence is not an evil - eg the lack of
wings isn't an evil because we don't
need them
Evil is not an opponent of God, or
God would not be omnipotent
You are only evil if you choose to be - eg if
you rob someone, your lack of respect for
them is what makes it wrong.
All beings liable to corruption have
some goodness in them or there would
be nothing to corrupt
God created beings with free will - humans and angels
Some angels turned
against God and 'fell.'
So there was evil to tempt
Adam and Eve via the snake
Original sin disrupted
harmony in the world
This is how humans are responsible for natural evil
Original sin is seminally present in us all
So our moral choices lead to evil
Jesus was sent to reverse the fall
If we repent we go to heaven, or
hell if we don't
Augustine's theory - issues
Most people don't believe in angels
Many don't take the creation
story literally
We know the Earth was not made
perfect - it developed slowly
How can sin
be inherited?
Unscientific
Unfair
How do angels sin?
We have to
accept the
existence of
hell
Didn't God know
we'd abuse free
will?
Irenaean Theodicy
(based on Irenaeus's
ideas, but made by
John Hick)
We are made in God's image,
but we have to grow into his
likeness
Irenaeus himself interpreted the Fall
literally - Adam and Eve had not learned
enough to realise what they did was
wrong so they were punished so they
could learn
But Hick's theodicy says you do not
need to take the story literally
We are not created in
God's presence or we'd be
overwhelmed and would
not have free will
There is an epistemic difference between
God and people
The world is an environment for
soul-making
Charity and compassion require suffering
We grow towards goodness
If only evil people suffered, we'd never learn
There is heaven; you go
to purgatory if you don't
learn enough to be good
in life
Eventually we all go
to heaven
Issues with this theory
Most don't
believe in
purgatory
Is universal salvation just?
Christians teach that God only
rewards goodness.
What about stillborn children?
Why do some groups seem to
suffer more than others?
Why is there so much suffering?
It means that God is responsible for evil
- an unattractive theory?
It means we have to accept God - if we
have free will, can't we reject him?
It makes Jesus a moral example
rather than a saviour
Benefits of theodicies
Augustine
Explains evil
Humans, not God, are responsible for evil
Seems fair - evil is punished,
good rewarded
Irenaeus
Humans aren't to blame -
an attractive idea
Could be accepted by non-Christians
and evolutionists
Heaven for everyone - a nice idea!
Do we need theodicies?
Can we understand God well
enough to explain his reasoning?